Christianity, that is. Gay marriage has been around for far longer.
The story of Gilgamesh and Enkidu is an excellent piece of literature. It also features beer as an essential part of civilised life (alongside only bread), further confirming the importance of libertinism as a founding philosophy of humankind.
It still doesn’t explain what they got up to in Gomorrah, though…
”Gay marriage has been around for far longer”.
Longer than Islam as well I suppose.
I look forward to your description of Islam in the same way or do you condone it’s attitude to homosexuality?
No: as you’d know if you’d being paying attention, I think Islam is extremely silly, being a religion and all. I refer you to the pharmacist post: "I’d apply exactly the same standards to Muslims in a similar position, or to blood-drinking Satanists".
Longer than Islam as well I suppose.
Since it’s a younger religion than Christianity… well, duh.
You can almost hear the clockwork mechanism working:
"He said something bad about Christianity…"
tick… grind… tick… ding!
"That means he must be pro-Islam! It’s political correctness gone mad!"
bliMey nOthing gets past you eh michael
too shaRp fOr a Numbnut like me.
John B
Let’s get this right
Christianity is a Offence against nature merely because it says homosexuality is a sin yet Islam is ‘silly’ even though Islamic states execute people simply for being homosexuals.
Hmmm
And surely it is homosexuality that is against the natural order seeing as it cannot lead to reproduction and is very much not the norm.
And surely it is homosexuality that is against the natural order seeing as it cannot lead to reproduction and is very much not the norm.
I assume from this that you have only ever had sex with the specific intention of triggering reproduction? That you have never used any form of contraception, or indeed partaken in any sexual activity other than plain vanilla missionary-position sex? That you think the concept of using your genitals as a means of expressing physical love for your partner is totally "against the natural order"?
Why am I irresistibly reminded of this guy? (Who, to give him credit, is at least honest about how his absurd strictures have had a somewhat calamitous effect on his sex life).
So Yoy, what is your objection to Islam again, given that they execute these abhorations?
Michael do you work on being that cretinous or is it a gift?
How on earth can you assume any of that drivel from what I said?
Homosexual relationships cannot reproduce. That is a fact. It is not homophobic, just a fact. However, the Natural order is that Beings including Man need to reproduce in order to survive and that there is a very strong biological need/desire in the vast majority of cases for them to do so. That is the Natural order. You may not like/accept/understand this but it remains a fact. Heteros can take precautions to prevent this reproduction, Homosexuals do not need to bother.
Loser: I have not stated any objections to Islam.
John B calls Christianity an offence for daring to have an opinion divergent to his on homosexuals – one shared by most if not all other major religions I might add- yet thinks Islam’s stance on the same subject -ie executing them – ‘silly’
I personally don’t think he has the nerve to say the same thing about Islam because Christianity is the easy – and much safer – target.
Michael do you work on being that cretinous or is it a gift?
How on earth can you assume any of that drivel from what I said?
Very easily – because your argument was predicated on the notion that human relationships are only "natural" if they’re oriented towards reproduction. Since this argument is, to use your own terminology, drivel, I merely added an extra layer to underline its essential absurdity.
Equally absurd is your presumably deliberate misreading of John’s stance on Christianity and Islam, despite the fact that he’s made his position on religion in general perfectly clear in both this and another current thread that you’ve obviously read because you’ve seen fit to comment on it.
So what exactly is the point you’re groping towards?
Executing people because of who they want to fuck is not only an ‘offense against nature’, (which, as Michael points out, was being used satirically), but also a crime against humanity.
Anyone (be they cleric, rapper or random bigot) who thinks gays should be arrested is an idiot, but should be allowed to hold their stupid views. Anyone of any creed who calls for gays to be topped is inciting crimes against humanity, and should be locked up.
Does that make things clear enough for you?