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Comments on: All Muslims are the same, innit? http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/ As fair-minded and non-partisan as Torquemada. Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:16:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: john b http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7088 Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:07:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7088 Yeah, and I totally landed him his big break in the movies.

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By: Soddom-WhoSays http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7086 Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:06:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7086 You know Johnny Depp?

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By: Simon http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7080 Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:52:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7080 Reuters:

"On March 10, after a five-week trial, a federal jury found al-Moayad and his aide, Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed, guilty of conspiring to provide material support and resources to al Qaeda between October 1999 and January 2003, and to Hamas between October 1997 and January 2003.<br/><br/><B>Al-Moayad was acquitted on a separate count of actually providing such support to al Qaeda</B>, but was found guilty of providing material support and resources to Hamas."<br/><br/>If only Scott Burgess had taken the time to do seven seconds of research like me, the confusion would have been avoided.<br/><br/>I don't think john's original post is misleading, anyway.]]>
From Reuters:

"On March 10, after a five-week trial, a federal jury found al-Moayad and his aide, Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed, guilty of conspiring to provide material support and resources to al Qaeda between October 1999 and January 2003, and to Hamas between October 1997 and January 2003.

<B>Al-Moayad was acquitted on a separate count of actually providing such support to al Qaeda</B>, but was found guilty of providing material support and resources to Hamas."

If only Scott Burgess had taken the time to do seven seconds of research like me, the confusion would have been avoided.

I don’t think john’s original post is misleading, anyway.

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By: john b http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7069 Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:09:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7069 I know he *said* he’d delivered US$20m to Al Qaeda, but as far as I could make out from the articles I read (including the CNN one you’ve linked), there was no supporting evidence apart from his overheard boasting. The only thing he was *actually caught doing* was plotting to fund Hamas.

As I’ve said, I might be wrong and I might have missed evidence that he actually gave AQ the money, but I haven’t spotted any so far.

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By: Scott Burgess http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7067 Fri, 29 Jul 2005 05:44:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7067 get it wrong</a>:<br/><br/>"<EM> Al-Moayad has also said that he personally delivered $20 million to bin Laden to support jihad in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Kashmir.</EM>"<br/><br/>As Eric points out, you can save yourself some embarrassment by carrying out 5 seconds of research before future posts.]]> Yes John, you did indeed get it wrong:

"<EM> Al-Moayad has also said that he personally delivered $20 million to bin Laden to support jihad in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Kashmir.</EM>"

As Eric points out, you can save yourself some embarrassment by carrying out 5 seconds of research before future posts.

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By: Backword Dave http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7062 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:57:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7062 Eric, but it’s not as offensive as your confidence that Muslims don’t understand irony.

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By: max http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7061 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:21:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7061 Harakat al-Muqawamah al-Islamiyyah or Hamas, Arabic acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement.

The Hamas charter calls for the creation of an Islamist theocracy, with Christians and Jews under Muslim domination. The Hamas charter states that the Freemasons, the Lions Club, and the Rotarians all secretly “work in the interest of Zionism,” and that any Muslim who leaves “the circle of struggle with Zionism” is commiting “high treason” and should be “cursed.” The Hamas charter states any land conquered by Muslims at any time (such as Spain or the Balkans) is “consecrated to the Muslims till the Day of Judgment.” The Hamas charter also states: “Jihad is not confined to the carrying of arms…The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity…all these are elements of Jihad for Allah’s sake.”

Hamas is responsible for the murder of Americans among hundreds of innocent civilians – Israeli, Palestinians and otherwise.

when all he actually did was to give money to Hamas means that all he actually did was to aid the murderers of American citizens among others as well as to actively support a designated terrorist organization in the United States.

That in itself makes him worthy of jail time. May he rot in peace. Poor man.

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By: Peter http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7060 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:22:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7060 Good for the Americans. One must hope this will have a chilling effect on Islamists here, too.

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By: Eric http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7058 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:01:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7058 John B.

Before you post such tosh, do you think it might be worthwhile checking a number of news sources to find out what he was actually charged and convicted of?

As for the title of the post, it is very offensive to the majority of Muslims who oppose terrorism and Al Qaeda.

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By: John http://sbbs.johnband.org/2005/07/all-muslims-are-the-same-innit/#comment-7057 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:44:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=1306#comment-7057 I’ll grant you that the Palestinian concession has a different 5 year plan than say the Kasmir concession or the Lebanese concession. But to suggest that Hamas doesn’t want the Caliphate/Sharia bundle is odd.

Perhaps you are right that Osama doesn’t want to push Israel into the sea and establish a Palestinian state

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