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36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was:

337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the LORD was 675;

38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the LORD was 72;

39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the LORD was 61;

40 16,000 people, of which the tribute for the LORD was 32.

32 girls for dog ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : jehovah and sex

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god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13

Handicapped people must not approach the altar. Leviticus 21:16-23

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon – “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

We may as well agree to disagree on the rightness or wrongness of my assertion, but that certainly isn’t the method I used to arrive at it. As I’ve said many times, I was born and brought up on the British Left. My assessment of their attitudes comes primarily from meeting them, going on rallies with them, and so on. Familiarty, contempt, etc.

No. (I was going to say the Labour Party’s traditions weren’t typified by aristocratic Scotchmen but maybe they were).
Ernest Bevin is a good example of the Labour Party’s traditional attitude to Israel and American Jews.
As is Tony Crosland. Or even Tom Bloody Watson. Or the bloody Milibands.

Seems to me you’re falling into the same trap as the US rightists – finding a couple of people with affiliations but no power and suggesting they’re holders of traditional values. e.g. Ward Churchill & Michael Moore being typical Kerry-supporters. Except US rightists use the misattribution to make money.

Firstly, I don’t think political views expressed on the Web are particularly representative of the public. Some other commenter here (I forget who) made a crack recently about libertarians without net connections being non-existent, and there’s a grain of truth to that, except that it doesn’t only apply to libertarians. Tam Dalyell’s a good example of the Labour Party’s traditional attitude to Israel and American Jews, and I doubt he blogs. Secondly, to answer your question, I’d need to trawl through the blogs and writing of every single commenter here, and I frankly can’t be bothered.

By the way, did you miss the bit where I said "Mine was a glib throwaway line, and an overgeneralisation"? You’re wanting a lot of rational analysis and specific examples for a glib throwaway overgeneralisation. In case you’re wondering, I’ve been known to generalise about all sorts of groups, frequently, for instance, calling the Tories "authoritarian bastards". Never noticed you complaining about that.

I don’t notice any left-wingers complaining about generalisations when faced with statements like "The Left have traditionally defended human rights," or "The Left stand up for freedom," despite both those statements, if you apply them to everyone on the Left, being utter bollocks. In fact, statements like that are constantly used by left-wingers as morally triumphant own-trumpet-blowing. Any time you switch to statements like "Well, some of us sometimes stand up for human rights, but loads of us supported the USSR and Mao’s China, lots of us complained about unwarranted imperialist American aggression against Serbia, and we have a nasty track record of issuing threats against the families of miners who go to work," then you can start complaining about the generalisations that come in the other direction. It wasn’t me that defined your group.

Apart from that, it’s always going to be a judgment call. I was born and brought up surrounded by the British Labour Party and it’s hangers-on. I’d love to say that I met lots of people who didn’t support the killing of Israeli Jewish and Northern Irish Protestant civilians, but I didn’t. I’ve come across a small handful of leftists on the Web, such as you, who appear to be a tad more humane than the mainstream. Good for you. Thirty years of experience tells me that you’re not representative, and, though I am supremely unlucky in many ways, I don’t think I’m so unlucky that I managed to meet every single one of a tiny minority of utter bastards on the otherwise lovely Left.

Your point about campaigns is a good one. Whenever I made that same point regarding the anti-war movement’s willingness to march with Jew-haters, gay-killers, and Eastern-Europe-oppressors, I was told either that I was a racist or that none of that was important compared to the big issue of fighting Bush and his evil warmongering neocons. Did you go on any of the anti-war marches, may I ask?

Is that by making such generalistions about "the Left" you are (a) entering USSNeverdock realms of paranoia and idiocy. Just as you say the Right includes lots of "people with whom I disagree and to whom I am not afilliated", the Left is similarly amorphous and ill-defined. (b) Being extremely counterproductive. I’d be happy to lend support to any serious campaign against anti-Semitism. But if that campaign includes people like you and Neverdock screeching about how "the Left" are all neo-Nazi-apologists, then amazingly enough, I’d feel less inclined to join in.

Similarly when it comes to home grown British racism, I’m sure you’re against anti-Arab violence. So we could join forces against that couldn’t we? Well maybe not if I went around talking about the constant background Arab-hatred I witness on the Right these days. No matter what anti-Arab action you see these days, up to and including murder, someone on the Right will defend or justify it. Every. Bloody. Time. It’s pissing me off.