Comments on: Torturing Americans

By: Laban Tall

Laban Tall — Wed, 18 May 2005 18:47:00 +0000

Died of blood poisoning ?

By: dsquared

dsquared — Wed, 18 May 2005 01:24:00 +0000

There were also apparently tortures where the victims ended up not as alive as they had used to be.

By: Laban Tall

Laban Tall — Tue, 17 May 2005 19:12:00 +0000

Guantanamera sounds like a biker gang’s initiation ceremony to me. Has Larry never yodelled down the valley when the decorators are in ?

There were apparently even worse tortures – involving young ladies rubbing their chests against the necks and backs of their victims. Is there no end to the evil of Amerikkka ?

By: John S

John S — Wed, 11 May 2005 14:41:00 +0000

They're nothing to do with me!

I know, correlation does not imply causation and all that.

By: Larry

Larry — Wed, 11 May 2005 10:08:00 +0000

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By: Lorna

Lorna — Wed, 11 May 2005 05:06:00 +0000

Well, yeah, it’s not relevant to a debate over whether it should have happened or not – though I’d hope civilised humans wouldn’t be having one of those. *Shrug* I’m just bothered by acceptance of misogyny ("ew! Women’s bodies! Icky!"), is all. Wasn’t necessarily meant to have any point to it.

There’s gotta be a way of having a problem with this without resorting to victim-blaming… Anyway, I’ve only had one cup of tea this morning, so I suspect I’m not making much sense.

By: Larry

Larry — Wed, 11 May 2005 04:33:00 +0000

I'd argue that showing fear and/or hatred of something that happens to every healthy bio-woman for decades of her life is really very misogynistic.

Yes this is entirely true, and entirely irrelevant.

Good to see that along with a guest poster comes a new crop of special guest loons in the comments section.

They're nothing to do with me!

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 10 May 2005 21:05:00 +0000

And you have us and Gitmo to thank to have the Tower and Big Ben STILL STANDING."
What a bunch of ingrates.

It's terrible, isn't it? Every day, on the train to work and again on the train home, I take my rifle and shoot randomly out of the carriage window. By doing this I have kept Peterborough free of tigers for two years. Do the people thank me? Do they bollocks.

However, I'd argue that showing fear and/or hatred of something that happens to every healthy bio-woman for decades of her life is really very misogynistic.

A-hem. Anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die just ain't natural. Athankyew.

By: Lorna

Lorna — Tue, 10 May 2005 19:43:00 +0000

I don’t think it’s necessarily misogynistic to hate the idea of having menstrual blood smeared on your face (their misogyny will increase the emotional impact – but no-one would like it).

Hmmm. It’s certainly not irrational not to want to come into contact with a stranger’s blood – that’s where a bunch of scary diseases live. It’s certainly not irrational to refuse to be touched in any circumstances. It’s certainly not acceptable to mistreat detainees, in any way, ever. Those who do so need to be prosecuted, those who allowed and/or ordered them to do so need to be prosecuted. However, I’d argue that showing fear and/or hatred of something that happens to every healthy bio-woman for decades of her life is really very misogynistic. I forget who said that if periods happened to men they’d be treated as a near-holy ritual, but she/he had a good point.

I disagree with Tulkinghorn that it’s not torture – I’ve got enough irrational phobias that wouldn’t make sense to another human being, and I wouldn’t want anybody preying on those. It should never have been done. Still. Is it possible to uphold human rights in all circumstances while not being impressed by people who think menstruation is the Worst Thing Ever? If so, that’s where I am.

By: John S

John S — Tue, 10 May 2005 19:34:00 +0000

Good to see that along with a guest poster comes a new crop of special guest loons in the comments section.