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Comments on: Not that bad, except for Americans http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/ As fair-minded and non-partisan as Torquemada. Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:16:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: European Loser http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1089 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:14:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1089 It’s difficult to tell whether he pities Europeans, envies Europeans, or just plain hates Europeans. Probably a combination of all three.

Mind you, I can see the logic – if I choose to spend all my money on an arsenal of weapons, at least I’ll have the choice of shooting myself when I can’t afford the cancer treatment.

It’s all about priorities.

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By: disenfranchised http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1088 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 11:04:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1088 "The right to spank an unruly child" is something our entire civilisation depends upon. Once you take that away, or give it up so easily, you are no longer entitled to an opinion.

The right for everybody to purchase a gun as easily as ordering a beer is an essential prerequisite of freedom and democracy. If you people don’t really care for it, you’re no longer entitled to an opinion. How dare you not like guns?

The right to hunt is one of the most sacred of human rights and if a majority of people don’t give a toss about it because they may have more interesting and slightly healthier hobbies than torturing foxes, then they have renounced democracy.

And signing the EU constitution! the crime, the horror, the loss of liberty.

Translation: Brits – only good as military backup for the Yanks and providers of fake intelligence claims. Vive la liberté e la coherence!

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By: frank http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1072 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:14:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1072 "Not that bad, except for Americans" ? I beg to differ. First, what’s bad for Americans is bad for the rest of the world too. And a second Bush term is going to be worse, much worse, in my opinion, than the first.

Rather than lay down his rifle and play nice now that he doesn’t need to be macho anymore to be re-elected, Bush can push through any number of medieval policies. And he will.

The neo-cons dominate all three powers (legislative, executive and judiciary) in the US now, with only the liberal (ha, ha) media to ‘oppose’ them. It’s going to be like shooting fish in a barrel for the Right, and the rest of us are in for a rough ride.

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By: Bastien http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1067 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1067 Well I crave it. It’s the brainwashing, you see.

Anyway, I’ve got to go now, they’re taking me to a place called the gulag – I hear it’s quite nice!

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By: Timbeaux http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1066 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:31:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1066 Well, I just like it’s a bit funny hearing about losing my liberties from Brits, whose government har at work fighting for them to lose their right to bear arms, their right to hunt, their right spank an unruly child, and even a right to vote for their first and very own Constitution. Liberties? The liberty to be a hive-mind?

The condescension is and has been rather thick, but it becomes a little comical once you consider the sources. You actually crave socialism…..I can begin to tell you how funny that is.

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By: Bastien http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1065 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:51:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1065 Oh what choice words – "freedom from friggin’ Hollywood leftist/socialist condescension."

I may be the yapping dog, but you sound more like General Jack D Ripper with every post – uttlerly, utterly unhinged. Dunno if you noticed, but the fight against socialism ended *years* ago. If it continues in any form whatsoever, it’s because us Eurotrash (and half of the US voters) still want it.

But, to use your patronising rhetoric, you’re probably too young to remember that. Or maybe not well-read enough.

Here’s to the next four years though – hope you have plenty of good luck.

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By: Quinn http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1064 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:40:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1064 I think you are absolutely right that the biggest difference between Bush and Kerry is what will now happen domestically and in the Supreme Court. The commonly voiced idea that a Bush presidency will lead to further wars is something I think unlikely, for exactly the practical reasons you have outlined.

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By: Timbeaux http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1062 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:12:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1062 I don’t like his spending, but Kerry would have made him look like Ebineezer Scrooge. Most of it was for the war anyway, and that falls under the "necessary" column not the "optional", and is therefor outside of consideration on the matter. Clinton had a minor surplus because he gutted the military budget. That should be the last thing cut, since it’s the fed’s primary responsibility.

Attacks on liberty & freedom? You’re delusional, or reading The Guardian too often, which amounts to the same thing. He wants to give me more freedoms, freedom from government-botched retirement plans, freedom from litigationally-inflated medical costs, freedom from affirmative action racism, and freedom from friggin’ Hollywood leftist/socialist condescension.

The scientific rationality that everyone keeps referring to is usually Kyoto, and Bush didn’t have anything to do with rejecting that, the Senate did 98-0 under Clinton. Stem cell research was not banned, it was simply banned from federal money when it came from destroyed embryoes. Medical research isn’t funded by the feds anyway, nor should it be.

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By: Matt http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1061 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:36:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1061 "an utter lack of anything recognizable as basic ethics"

You’re talking about the Bush team, right? Or does the numerous attacks on liberty, freedom, the truth and scientific rationality (see a number of John’s posts in the past) not count?

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By: john b http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/11/not-that-bad-except-for-americans/#comment-1060 Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:50:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=582#comment-1060 Clinton didn’t run up record trade and budget deficits.

It’s like you’re saying "Dave is good with money: he’s driving around in an Armani suit and a gold Rolls-Royce, and he’s buying drinks for everyone in the bar". Not if he’s buying them all on credit he can’t easily afford to pay back, he isn’t.

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