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Comments on: The point http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/09/the-point/ As fair-minded and non-partisan as Torquemada. Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:16:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tom Grey http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/09/the-point/#comment-582 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:11:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=389#comment-582 I sure do like visible justice, but only support democracy insofar as such a democracy supports human rights. Mugabe got power in Zimbabwe, from visibly democratic elections. But what he’s doing is not justice.

Justice requires a standard. The current Islamic standard includes Sharia, and not allowing Muslims to convert to another religion. This Islamic standard must change — and those clerics not willing to change it should be held responsible for terrorism. The strands of Islam that do NOT respect human rights and toleration of differences in belief — believers of such strands need to be silenced; probably killed.

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By: James M http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/09/the-point/#comment-545 Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:22:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=389#comment-545 "…victory is pre-ordained": so much for Luxemburg’s "socialism or barbarism", then, and no more selling Socialist Worker for me because, hey, we’re all going to win anyway – which would rather make it an anti-revolutionary Marxism. (I do wonder if the major similarity isn’t the tendency to make sweeping judgements like this one in both cases.)

I rather agree with your post: for all these appeals to "security", there’s very little desire to explain what that word means politically, or ought to mean – ie, if anything at all, intelligent police-work and a visibly democratic justice, rather than quick-bomb-the-crap-out-of-somewhere.

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