Comments on: Paranoid derangement

By: Will

Will — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:27:00 +0000

Even tho’ I was pissed when initially answering John here, I stand by what I said. Obfuscations, nuances and subtelties aside, I haven’t forgot that the right wingers who hold a position on Iraq the same as me, do so from different impulses and ultimate aims, and are at the end of the day head cases, nutjobs and the fucking class enemy.

By: Bastien

Bastien — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:52:00 +0000

John T, are you a ‘ruralite’, or are you just trying to score points?

By: john b

john b — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:12:00 +0000

My original ‘ruralite’ post was in no way blind prejudice – I was just countering someone else’s bizarre assertion that ruralites were *better* than everyone else.

Criticising Islam is perfectly legitimate… it’s a religion, and therefore definitionally a silly waste of time and effort. Suggesting that Muslims are Nazi sympathisers who plan to overthrow the British government and gas the gays and the Jews, however, is insane.

Eric: perhaps I should have written ‘am sure’ rather than ‘hope’ in the original post. Nonetheless, I thought I’d made it fairly clear that I believe in the existence of "non-Muslim-hating non-nutcase WoT hawks"…

By: john t

john t — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:56:00 +0000

Yes Bastien. Every English "ruralite" was there. And they were all, every last man jack of them, rioting just as hard as they could. Absolutely.

By: Bastien

Bastien — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:35:00 +0000

Well it was the ‘ruralites’ who actually rioted in London this week, so fuck ’em, they deserve it.

By: john t

john t — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:14:00 +0000

Blind prejudice is perfectly acceptable on this blog when directed at an approved group – British "ruralites" for example. But criticising Islam is beyond the pale.

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:39:00 +0000

What is slightly more disturbing is while he does not feel that "all the War on Terror-ites are racist", he does feel that we all have to come over here to prove it.

By: Michael

Michael — Sat, 18 Sep 2004 05:55:00 +0000

I hate to say it, but by totally ignoring the substance of Andrew Ian Dodge's post (i.e. about the staggering levels of Der Stürmer-style anti-Semitism in the mainstream Islamic media in the Middle East) in favour of taking a scaremongering quote out of its original context, aren't you helping him prove his point about how rather too many people are prepared to turn a blind eye to this kind of thing?

I don't for one second buy his attempt to compare the present-day Islamic world with Nazi Germany, which is just ignorant and offensive (not least because it ignores the fact that the overwhelming majority of Muslims regard Islamic terrorism with utter abhorrence), but he's basically right that there are certain things that rather too many of us seem happy either to ignore or condone.

If you want a good recent example, just look at how Peter Tatchell was vilified recently.

By: john b

john b — Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:10:00 +0000

The link includes the first quote – the second one is here. And cheers, indeed.

By: Will

Will — Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:17:00 +0000

The link you give doesn’t seem to be to the quoted sections you give. But what the hell, I just looked at the blog of the ‘liberatarian’ and can with all honesty say…fuck the motherfucker. Fucking asshole.

Does that do John?