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Comments on: Reds under beds http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/ As fair-minded and non-partisan as Torquemada. Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:16:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: GRRR http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-2086 Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:16:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-2086 VINCE IS A FAGGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VINCE PIROTTA IS A PEDOFILE

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By: hi http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-2059 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:41:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-2059 hi bec

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By: AHHH http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-2057 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:38:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-2057 my home number is +61(02)46475678
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By: AHHH http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-2056 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:37:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-2056 AHHHHHH my email is shaun898@hotmail.com

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By: AHHH http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-2055 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:35:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-2055 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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By: john b http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-132 Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:13:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-132 In my mind, the difference between Stalin (and Hitler, come to that) and previous generations of evil bastards is that they had the communications and logistics capacities to actually impose their evil plans on significant numbers of people – not that their plans were notably more evil.

& Stalin was never really about communism in a sense that Marx would recognise – just about control, power and expansion, like his Tsarist predecessors.

…so in short, if we’re going to blame the gulags on clever London-based 19th century European expats, Marconi is just as good a candidate as Marx.

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By: ed http://sbbs.johnband.org/2004/04/reds-under-beds/#comment-130 Mon, 05 Apr 2004 15:06:00 +0000 http://sbbs.johnband.org/?p=146#comment-130 I suppose that people easily associate people like Ustinov with a long tradition of artists from George Bernard Shaw onward who visited Russia and said that tales of barbarity were greatly exaggerated. Meantime millions were dying.

Although now we look back and it’s as if people like Ustinov were playing with Monopoly money, in fact at the time their views really counted, and the issues were live ones.

The problem you’re having is with what I’ve just done: lumped Ustinov together with notorious appeasers. I agree it’s easy to exaggerate, but that’s been induced by hearing uncritical praise from many corners. It’s not just the criticisms that have been unbalanced, it’s the praise too.

Oh but I do strongly disgree with the last point you make (in comments). To say that would imply that the Tsars in, say, any given twenty-five year period, might have been responsible directly for the deaths of millions (as Stalin was); that’s just not true. Life was miserable for the peasants, but generally they lived.

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